Comments on: Learning 4e: First Impressions through character generation… http://www.stupidranger.com/2008/07/learning-4e-first-impressions-through-character-generation.php Never Adventure Alone Thu, 09 Sep 2010 05:19:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Donny_the_Dm http://www.stupidranger.com/2008/07/learning-4e-first-impressions-through-character-generation.php/comment-page-1#comment-673 Donny_the_Dm Tue, 29 Jul 2008 14:58:00 +0000 http://www.stupidranger.com/2008/07/learning-4e-first-impressions-through-character-generation.html#comment-673 My feelings are very similar. One can only wonder how things would be today if 4E had been released as:<br/><br/>D&D minis Advanced or<br/>Magic: The RPG<br/><br/>I mean no negativity by this opinion, just that for all it's flaws, 3.5 has a very large fan base who have drawn the proverbial line in the sand.<br/><br/>It will get better when the splat starts dropping, but we're talking a year or two until we even get to see a shadow of the previous edition.<br/><br/>Expect the frothing flame wars to fire up again next month when the FR campaign setting releases. That seems to be a pretty big point of contention. <br/><br/>On the other hand, 4e IS simpler, though the customization options seem to have taken a bit of a hit. My kids love it though, and that's good enough for me. My feelings are very similar. One can only wonder how things would be today if 4E had been released as:

D&D minis Advanced or
Magic: The RPG

I mean no negativity by this opinion, just that for all it's flaws, 3.5 has a very large fan base who have drawn the proverbial line in the sand.

It will get better when the splat starts dropping, but we're talking a year or two until we even get to see a shadow of the previous edition.

Expect the frothing flame wars to fire up again next month when the FR campaign setting releases. That seems to be a pretty big point of contention.

On the other hand, 4e IS simpler, though the customization options seem to have taken a bit of a hit. My kids love it though, and that's good enough for me.

]]> By: The Storyteller http://www.stupidranger.com/2008/07/learning-4e-first-impressions-through-character-generation.php/comment-page-1#comment-672 The Storyteller Tue, 29 Jul 2008 13:10:00 +0000 http://www.stupidranger.com/2008/07/learning-4e-first-impressions-through-character-generation.html#comment-672 <i>I think the gameplay of 4e will be fast, fun, and very classic D&D.</i><br/><br/>This is great to hear! I tried out 4e at D&D Experience and felt like it was pulling away from the classic game. It's always nice to hear a fresh opinion on everything.<br/><br/>For me in the end though, it is a matter of money. As you hinted at, WOtC definitely enjoys expansion books, if 3.5 wasn't already a clue to that. I gave into that with 3.5 and have very happily invested my life savings into the 3.5 craze which sits on my bookshelf today. I don't have room for another bookshelf, either in my house, or in my budget.<br/><br/>Thanks for the reflection though! I think the gameplay of 4e will be fast, fun, and very classic D&D.

This is great to hear! I tried out 4e at D&D Experience and felt like it was pulling away from the classic game. It's always nice to hear a fresh opinion on everything.

For me in the end though, it is a matter of money. As you hinted at, WOtC definitely enjoys expansion books, if 3.5 wasn't already a clue to that. I gave into that with 3.5 and have very happily invested my life savings into the 3.5 craze which sits on my bookshelf today. I don't have room for another bookshelf, either in my house, or in my budget.

Thanks for the reflection though!

]]> By: ChattyDM http://www.stupidranger.com/2008/07/learning-4e-first-impressions-through-character-generation.php/comment-page-1#comment-671 ChattyDM Tue, 29 Jul 2008 10:36:00 +0000 http://www.stupidranger.com/2008/07/learning-4e-first-impressions-through-character-generation.html#comment-671 <i>Having such a stripped down core system has left me wanting more to work with.</i><br/><br/>You hit one of 4e's marketing issues on the head. D&D Gamers were used to a mature, complete system in 3.5.<br/><br/>The new Core Set feels like a Magic the Gathering Starter Set like Portal or those dinky pre-shuffled small Decks you get with a CD Rom.<br/><br/>It will get better... just not now... Having such a stripped down core system has left me wanting more to work with.

You hit one of 4e's marketing issues on the head. D&D Gamers were used to a mature, complete system in 3.5.

The new Core Set feels like a Magic the Gathering Starter Set like Portal or those dinky pre-shuffled small Decks you get with a CD Rom.

It will get better… just not now…

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